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Jeg kan jo forstå politiet som stadig vekk må hanke inn disse ungdommene. Her på Stjørdal har jo det lille av ungdomskriminalitet som forkommer - unntatt den rus og skolerelaterete - vært direkte knyttet til behandlingsintitusjonen som er opprettet her.
For politiet som lever av og for tvang er dette en helt naturlig reaksjon.

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Yes, tankegangen skjønner jeg godt, og at de må gjøre noe skjønner jeg godt, men det er nå i virkeligheten ingen annen vei enn å støtte foreldrene som har sjanse til å lykkes. Politiet MÅ begynne å nøste opp innholdet av hvorfor de unge er plassert der.

Jeg legger inn følgende kommentar til Fædrelandsvennens artikkel, så får vi se om den kommer inn:

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Underlig at man tror mere tvang vil hjelpe mot fluktforsøk
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Man skulle tro både Skovly i politiet ville komme på den tanke at mennesker, likesom dyr, stort sett ikke befinner seg vel under tvang i fengsel. Kanskje især når fengselet ikke går under navnet fengsel, men er det, og når man ikke er dømt til fengselsstraff. Det blir naturligvis en uheldig spiral av tvang, opprør, mere tvang, mere opprør. Politiet synes kanskje ikke at slaver skulle søke friheten heller?

Men nei, "Han understreker at han ikke klandrer barnevernet selv, men vil at de ansatte skal ha større fullmakt".

Det eneste sted hvor det er bra sannsynlighet for at barn og unge skikker seg og gjerne vil høre til, er i egen families hjem. All barneverns"omsorg" gjør galt verre, dessverre. Det fører til opprør, forurettethet over urettferdighet og løgn og mangel på frihet og meningsfylthet. Det eneste som muligens KAN hjelpe er å støtte foreldre, ikke angripe og demonisere dem som barnevernet gjør og nå også politiet gjerne hopper etter.

Fædrelandsvennens reporter Kvamme får ikke hjernevindingene i sterk nok aktivitet til å stille betimelige spørsmål til ANDRE enn politiet og barnevernet. Et forslag: Spør "beboerne"! Spør enda heller deres foreldre!
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Håkon, jeg tror ikke det er merkelig – jeg tror de "forstår" det godt nok, det er bare ikke lønnsomt for dem å trekke konsekvensen av det.

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Ikke mere tvang allikevel? Nei, den er vel i realiteten temmelig total. Jeg legger merke til hvilke partier som ville ha mere.

  

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