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Er det riktig å utsette alle småbarn for gynekologiske undersøkelser på helsestasjonen?
Nei, det vil være overgrep satt i system 92%  92%  [ 12 ]
Ja, alt må gjøres for å hindre kulturelt betinget kjønnslemlestelse 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
Vet ikke 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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 Post subject: Vurderer å sjekke alle småbarns underliv
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Norsk Gynekologisk Forening mener at av småjenters underliv vil være et overgrep satt i system av norske myndigheter. Foreningen tror en obligatorisk undersøkelse vil bli oppfattet som uforståelig, flaut, krenkende og direkte skremmende.

Franske leger hevder derimot at det er like ille å la være å sjekke barna.

I går var Barne og likestillingsminister Karita Bekkemellem i forstaden Seine-St. Denis utenfor Paris for å vurdere den franske modellen med obligatorisk helsesjekk av småbarns underliv.

Kommentar: Allerede idag er norske helsestasjoner aktive overgripere mot barn og foreldre som blir presset til å oppsøke de offentlige kontrollstasjonene. Heksejakten på såkalt "omsorgssvikt" har ført til at både helsesøstre og leger fullstendig har mistet gangsynet. Med rett til å foreta obligatoriske kontroller av småbarns underliv, kommer hysteriet til å ta fullstendig av. Småbarn kommer til å bli utsatt for regulære voldtekter begått av offentlig ansatt helsepersonell. Leger og helsesøstre kommer til å stikke fingre og andre gjenstander inn i barnas kjønnsåpninger, og det kommer til å bli skrevet en masse journalnotater om "mistanke om seksuelle overgrep". Barnevernet kommer til å kreve ytterligere undersøkelser av barna, og det foregår gjerne ved at småbarn kles nakne og må stå oppe på et bord på alle fire mens deres kjønnsorganer studeres av nysgjerrige personer.

Karita Bekkemellom, som gjerne ikler seg åletrange og dypt utringede nattklubbkjoler ved en hver "festlig" anledning, er ivrig etter å sette igang med sex-undersøkelsene. Den nyskilte kvinnen var på studietur til Paris. Hva hun fikk med seg av legens forklaring er uvisst, for Karita har ingen utdannelse utover . Men det trengs da heller ikke, for Karita har makt til å krenke, og den makten vet hun å benytte seg av.

Makt til å krenke får Karita ved å innlemme sine ofre i såkalte "". Det er snart ikke et menneske i Norge som ikke tilhører en eller annen "svak gruppe". Svake grupper må selvfølgelig tilbys "nødvendig hjelp", gjerne med tvang, om de ikke selv innser sin egen svakhet.

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Jevnfør hvor fryktelig barna tatt i Cleveland-saken opplevet myndighetenes og især helsepersonalets aksjoner:



  

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Maktpakket har ingen rettigheter til andre menneskers underliv.

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 Post subject: Misbrukt i det offentlige helsevesenet
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 Post subject: Re: Vurderer å sjekke alle småbarns underliv
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 Post subject: Overgrep for å avsløre mulige overgrep?
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Overgrep for å avsløre mulige overgrep?

Er de blitt splitterpine gal nå!

Og nå skal jeg opp igjen og lese resten.

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 Post subject: En helt sann historie.
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En helt sann historie. Kan godt være jeg har fortalt den her inne før, men den passer å bli fortalt igjen. Så får vel psykolog Svein Magnar Hansen noen svar på sine grublerier som stemmer overens med den diagnosen han har klistret på meg:

Jeg var 7 år og til legekontroll på skolen for 1ste gang. Undersøkelsen fant sted i garderoben i gymsalen på Skjold barneskole i Fana. Alle vi småjenter skrattet og lo og hoppet og spratt rundt omkring som noen kaninunger i bare underbuksen. Slik som 7-åringer flest pleier å gjør i en garderobe når de bare henger rundt og venter på egentlig ingenting.

Min tur. Legen klabbet til meg i ansiktet mitt så det svei, fordi at jeg ikke klarte / ville / fikk til å stå i ro. Og jeg begynte å gråte. Og etterpå så trakk han ned underbuksen på meg.

Jeg skammet meg så fryktelig at det ikke var / er til å beskrive. Tror du at jeg turde å fortelle det til min mor? Nei. Det har bare vært min hemmelighet, i mange herrens år. Det er ikke det nå lenger. Det kalles for "krenket bluferdighet". Og det er ikke bra for barn.

Spørs hva barnevernet hadde gjort i dag, hvis de fikk snusen i noe lignende. Legen hadde ihvert fall ikke fått sparken. Men, min mor hadde fått skylden, og min såkalte "stefar" hadde blitt anklaget for "incest" og det hadde blitt et helvete på jord.

Derfor blir jeg styggsint når jeg leser om slike idiotiske forslag. Og at mykporno- og glamour-modellen Karita Bekkemellem synes dette er storartet, overrasker meg faktisk ikke.

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 Post subject: SV-krangel om underlivssjekk
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 Post subject: Kritisk til obligatorisk underlivssjekk
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 Post subject: HEMMELIG UNDERLIVSSJEKK AV BARN
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Omfattende underlivssjekk av barn i regi av helsestasjon/skolehelsetjeneste har en lang og solid tradisjon i Norge. Dette gjelder både jenter og gutter.

Men som oftest gjøres dette i hemmelighet og barna dopes som regel ned før undersøkelsen for å gjøre dem medgjørlige og forat de ikke skal huske så godt hva som har skjedd, og ofte også forat de ikke skal fortelle foreldrene hva som er gjort.

Leger i Norsk gynekologisk forening og denslags som offentlig sier de er imot obligatorisk underlivssjekk, er i virkeligheten imot underlivssjekk som utførs i åpenhet og med barn vel vitende om hva som gjøres, mens hemmelige prosedyrer utført under neddoping er noe de i stor utstrkning ønsker og selv utfører, men ikke snakker åpent om.

Jeg ble selv utsatt for dette som barn på den skolen jeg gikk, men de klarte ikke å hindre meg i å huske det som ble gjort, eller gjøre meg forvirret.

De fleste barn som utsettes for dette, blir imidlertid forvirret med hensyn til hva som er gjort med dem, og så oppstår det en rekke rare historuer om seksualle overgrep, bortførelse utført av UFO-vesener, eller enda rarere historuer.


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Med fare for å virke rasistisk vil jeg si at underlivssjekk av alle jentebarn med foreldre fra det nordlige Afrika burde være obligatorisk.

Jeg kommer ikke til å svare på kritikk da det vel er lov å ha egne meninger :wink:


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