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FORUMET REDD VÅRE BARN • View topic - Forvaltningsorganet fylkesnemnda uten legitimitet utenlands?
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 Post subject: Forvaltningsorganet fylkesnemnda uten legitimitet utenlands?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:51 am 
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Nå er ikke jus min sterkeste side, og jeg setter derfor pris på om noen kan belyse dette emnet ytterligere. Men jeg klarer likevel å trekke noen konklusjoner ut av denne historien som er gjengitt på Delight in Truth:

German Family Defeats Barnevernet!
https://delightintruth.com/2016/05/26/german-family-defeats-barnevernet/

En tysk søskenflokk ble altså nokså nylig tatt av barnevernet i Norge, og overført til Tyskland, antagelig i tråd med nye retningslinjer fra sentrale norske myndigheter. Kort fortalt har ikke tyske myndigheter tiltro til Fylkesnemnda som noe annet enn et forvaltningsorgan (noe det vitterlig også er), og fant ikke at vedtaket om omsorgsovertakelse var rettslig bindende.

De fire barna ble etter litt om og men levert tilbake til foreldrene.

Utlandet har - i likhet med den private part i norske barnevernssaker - ikke tillit til Fylkesnemnda, og de har heller ikke tillit til norske barnevernmyndigheters vurderinger. Det skal bli spennende å se hvordan norske myndigheter skal løse dette problemet når de nå skal "samarbeide" mer med utlandet i tiden fremover.


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Det er jeg redd Norge kommer til å fikse ved å opprette "barnedomstoler". Det får status av domstol, hvilket tilfredsstiller f.eks Menneskerettighetsdomstolens krav til et "tribunal".

Men i barnedomstolen blir det fullt opp av jurister med særlig kompetanse i slike saker. Det blir de samme juristene som har drevet med det til nå, både dommere, fylkesnevndsledere, og slike som har stått sentralt i utarbeiding og påvirkning av lovgivningen. Og så blir det fullt av "barnefaglige" eksperter. Gjett hvem.

Altså blir en slik spesialdomstol fylkesnevndene om igjen, med enda større makt og prestisje, og enda mere beskyttet stilling for alle som har med den å gjøre og for myndighetene.

  

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