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22 januar 2016:

Noen av demonstrasjonene nevnt ovenfor har vi ikke sett rapporter fra. Støttegruppens facebookside oppgir at de i Moskva og Riga fant sted, med henholdsvis 10 og 20 fremmøtte. De som var få, fortjener honnør, og deres innsats er desto mer verdifull. Det er sånn det må starte mange steder! Det er også omtrent så mange som i flere år møtte opp her i Norge når det ble demonstrert mot barnevernet.

Oversikten over kommende demonstrasjoner (+ én fra i går) ser nå slik ut (jeg nummererer i flukt med det jeg gjorde i innlegget ovenfor av 16 januar klokken 07:29):

8. Vilnius, Litauen – 21 januar 2016

9. Bratislava, Slovakia – 23 januar 2016

10. Tallinn, Estland – 23 januar 2016

11. Oradea, Romania – 23 januar 2016

12. Satu Mare, Romania – 23 januar 2016

13. St. Petersburg, Russland – 23 januar 2016

14. Dublin, Irland – 24 januar 2016

15. Warszawa, Polen – 30 januar 2016

16. Melbourne, Australia – 30 januar 2016

17. Bistrita, Romania – 30 januar 2016

18. Baia Mare, Romania – 30 januar 2016

19. Sibiu, Romania – 30 januar 2016

20. New Delhi, India – 31 januar 2016, utenfor den norske ambassaden

21. Kolkata, India – 31 januar 2016, utenfor det norske konsulatet

Jeg har også hørt om en, som ennå ikke er bekreftet, for kommende uke:
22. San Francisco, USA Uke 4 ?

    

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I morges ble det annonsert på russisk tv at det skulle være en demonstrasjon mot norsk barnevern i Tallinn i Estland i dag!


  

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Demonstrasjoner den 23 januar 2016:


St. Petersburg:    Omtrent et dusin demonstranter i St. Petersburg, Russland


Bratislava:    Omkring to dusin protesterende i Bratislava, Slovakia


Tallinn:    Omtrent et dusin protesterende i Tallinn, Estland, med plakater med både estnisk og russisk tekst
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Oradea:    10,000 protesterende? – et folkehav – i Oradea, Romania

 1 – med hornmusikk og sang under demonstrasjonen
 2 – fortsettelsen, med taler
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Satu Mare:    Almost 1,200 protesterende i Satu Mare, Romania

  
  

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Jan Simonsen:

Frie Ytringer – Jan Simonsens blogg, 24 januar 2016

Inneholder video av demonstrasjonen i Praha.

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Demonstrasjoner den 24 januar 2016:


Dublin:    Omtrent 1600 demonstranter i Dublin, Irland



Deva:    Flere hundre demonstranter i Deva, Romania



Paris:    En uvanlig markering i Paris, Frankrike:  Grunnet faren for terroristangrep kan de ikke få tillatelse til å holde en ordinær demonstrasjon. Istedenfor har de plassert barneleker og plakater foran den norske ambassaden, og bedt Norge om å gi tilbake Bodnariu-barna.


  

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Denne oversikten har (anslått) antall deltagere i høyre kolonne. Oversikten er imidlertid ikke helt oppdatert, men nyttig allikevel.

De som deltar i demonstrasjoner som bare trekker et dusin eller to mennesker, har lett for å bli skuffet tro det er bortkastet, men vi skal være ekstra glad for deres bidrag. Det krever ikke mot å demonstrere når du er sammen med flere hundre andre, men demonstrantene i små demonstrasjoner, de er pionerene! Å vise på internett at det har vært en demonstrasjon, oppmuntrer andre, og gjør det mulig å finne nye venner og allierte.
Alt må ha en begynnelse!

Anti-barneverns-demonstrasjoner her i Norge har bare hatt et dusin deltagere eller mindre i mange år. Det er bare de siste par årene de har vokst, og da har mange som deltok, vært utlendinger!

    

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Flere demonstrasjoner annonsert


22. Houston, Texas, USA – 6 februar 2016, ved 3401 W. Dallas

23. San Francisco, California, USA – 13 februar 2016, ved 575 Market Street, utenfor det norske konsulat


Ellers har det vært annonsert at det ikke blir arrangert protester mellom 1 mars og 16 april. På 16 april, derimot, er det tenkt å bli koordinerte demonstrasjoner i flere land og byer.

  

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Demonstrasjoner den 30 januar 2016:


Melbourne:    Omtrent 400 demonstranter i Melbourne, Australia




VG, 30 januar 2016

Iasi:    4000 demonstranter i Iasi, Romania




Sibiu:    5000 demonstranter i Sibiu, Romania






Bistrita:    1500 demonstranter i Bistrita-Nasaud, Romania


    
Baia Mare:    2500 demonstranter i Baia Mare, Romania
  (til støtte for Marius og Ruth Bodnariu, familien Nan, familien Avramenscu og i solidaritet med alle familier som er ofre for Barnevernets overgrep)


Cluj-Napoca:    1500 demonstranter i Cluj-Napoca, Romania, andre protest


Castellon:    600 demonstranter i Castellon, Spania



Warszawa, Polen - 20 demonstranter
  
  

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Demonstrasjoner den 31 januar 2016:


New Delhi og Kolkata:    1-2 dusin eller så deltagere på hvert av stedene New Delhi og Kolkata, India
(bildene er både fra Delhi og Kolkata)

Beretning fra New Delhi: De visste at det ville bli få oppmøtte, men de som var der lyttet meget oppmerksomt. Det var flere utmerkede taler (fra velinformerte folk). Også politifolkene, som var der som avtalt fordi det var en annonsert demonstrasjon, fulgte ivrig med. Politikvinnene stønnet og utbrøt opphisset: "Vi ville gi vårt liv for våre barn!" og "Hvordan kan det eksistere et slikt system i utlandet?"
    De hadde en liten dukketeater-forestilling over temaet "morskjærlighet".
    Til slutt gikk de til den norske ambassaden og overleverte sine signerte protest-plakater til en ambassade-funksjonær. De gikk også til den amerikanske ambassaden (det har vært flere saker hvor indere i USA har opplevet at deres barn ble tatt av amerikansk barnevern.)


Videos:
(Anti-Barnevernet tale av indisk kristen leder, Dr John Dayal) (Tekstet på engelsk nedenfor)
  (Anti-Barnevernet tale av indisk politiker Brinda Karat) (på hindi, og hver del fulgt av engelsk)
(Anti-Barnevernet tale av indisk menneskerettighetsadvokat Nandita Rao (Hindi) (på hindi)
(Anti-Barnevernet tale av indisk menneskerettighetsadvokat Nandita Rao) (på engelsk)
    (Nandita Rao var Sagarika Chakrabortis advokat i India, da Sagarika lyktes å få igjen barna)
(Anti-Barnevernet tale av aktivist for Indiske Kvinners Rettigheter Jagmati Sangwan) (på hindi, skriftlig engelsk oversettelse nedenfor)
(Anti-Barnevernet tale av indisk klassisk danser Sonal Mansingh (på hindi og engelsk)
(English, with texting below) (Anti-Barnevernet Tale av indisk akademiker og forfatter, Dr Ashis Nandy) (engelsk, også tekstet nedenfor)
(Anti-barneverns-tale av indisk akademiker og rettighetsaktivist Madhu Kishwas) (på engelsk)
(Hindi, English texting below) (Anti-Barnevernet tale av parlamentsmedlem Mani Shankar Aiyar (Del 1) (på hindi, engelsk teksting nedenfor)
(Hindi, English texting below) (Anti-Barnevernet tale av parlamentsmedlem Mani Shankar Aiyar (Del 2) (på hindi, engelsk teksting nedenfor)

Før Dr Ashis Nandys tale sa Suranya Aiyar:
"The well-known Indian public intellectual, Dr Ashis Nandy, on the ideology of childhood at an Anti-CPS protest in Jantar Mantar, New Delhi on 31 January 2016. Dr Nandy is a sociologist and clinical psychologist. In this address, Dr Nandy reveals the hostility and fear of children in their natural state - in their childishness and dependence - that is latent in modern, Westernised thinking towards children. It is this anti-child ideology that lies at the heart of the child protection system of the West. He also identifies the roots of this system in Western imperialism."

Til Madhu Kishwars tale:
“What we are doing the poor in the name of protecting their children” Madhu Kishwar at a protest at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi against confiscation of children by the State from loving families in the name of “child protection”. Madhu Kishwar is a well-known Indian public intellectual. She is an academic, writer and Founder President of Manushi, a civil rights and social justice advocacy group.
In this address, Madhu Kishwar describes the plight of the “Nat” communities, impoverished wandering folk-dancers, -musicians and players in India, being targeted and having their children snatched by the State, and the parents subjected to criminal proceedings under anti-beggary laws. This system follows the same pattern of stigmatisation of vulnerable families, abusing parents and children instead of helping them, misuse of official power and the network of corruption and fraud that feeds upon such child protection laws, that we see in the Western child protection system. More proof that it has been a mistake to use the State machinery in this manner to intervene for the protection of children, and that the entire model of child welfare, whether here in India or in the developed world, has to be re-thought."


Til Mani Shankar Aiyars tale:
Note to friends abroad: in this speech in Hindi, the case of the mother being told not to have another child on pain of Social Services taking it away at birth refers to the Baby No Name Case in England. "Sagarika" is the mother in the Bhattacharya Case in Norway and in Part II, the Czech case of the Michalak boys regarding whom the Czech President intervened is described. The speaker also informs the gathering that he has met with the Norwegian Ambassador in New Delhi and submitted a proposal that children from foreign families confronted by Barnevernet should be immediately repatriated to their native countries.

Til Sonal Mansinghs tale:
"Thank Heavens, Norway wasn't there to drag Yashoda off!" says famous Indian Classical Dancer and cultural icon, Sonal Mansingh at Anti-CPS protest at Jantar Manter, New Delhi on 31 January 2016. You can tell she is a dancer from the expressive hand gestures. Thank you Sonal Mansingh for this fitting riposte to the arrogance and inhumanity of the Western system, especially of Norway!
A brief summary for those unfamiliar with Hindi:
English at 5 seconds; 23 seconds; 1.12 minu...tes; 1.31 minutes; 2.07 minutes; 3.07 minutes; 3.30 minutes; 4.07 minutes. Must watch for anti-CPS activists!
She starts by describing the legends of the God Krishna as a child stealing butter and breaking pots in the village, and his mother Yashoda scolding and spanking him. "Thank Heavens, Norway wasn't here to drag Yashoda off!" she says, to laughs from the audience. "Our civilisation, our culture, our world view, our understanding of love, is totally different and if foreign countries don't understand that, let them come here and learn about us." "They should learn from India how to love your children".
""This is demonic!" she says of confiscation of children by the State from loving families in Western child protection system, calling for such countries to be denounced and penalised. "They have totally given up on human values and have no right to point fingers at other country on basis of human rights". She ends by calling upon those gathered to spread awareness of this injustice, so that the entire nation raises its voice against it."


Suranya Aiyar har lagt til:
"Note: In reference to the points about co-sleeping and the type of discipline demanded in the raising of children in the West in general and in particular by child welfare authorities, it may be noted that a recommended practice in modern, Westernised infant care is to “sleep train” infants, where parents are advised to teach the baby from birth to fall asleep by itself using the “cry-it-out” method, which, as its name suggests, involves leaving the baby alone to sleep by itself and ignoring its wailing (sometimes for hours on end) till it falls exhausted to sleep. Popular baby books admonish the mother and father not to give in to their feelings by rushing to comfort the baby. The Baby Whisperer, a hugely successful baby book even advices that if a baby is ill and wakes up crying, the parent should walk in to administer pain-relief medicine without showing much emotion, tell it to go back to sleep alone in as matter-of-fact way as possible, and briskly leave the room, or else the illness will undue the sleep training of the baby. In this same book, the author complains that family holidays are a problem as the children have to be re-trained to the home routine on return! In Western English-speaking cultures, infants are commonly talked of as “manipulating” their care givers by crying or fussing. As regards hand-feeding, in the Bhattacharya case in Norway, the inquiries from the school which ultimately reported the family to Barnevernet, started with complaints that the son, then about 2 years old, was not learning to eat by himself, and was hand fed by the mother when she came for parent-and-child days. In the Chadrasekhar Case, another case involving an Indian family in Norway, the inquiries started with the school complaining that the boy was not following the school routine. In the Bodnariu Case in Norway, one of the criticisms from the school was that the girls were more high spirited than the others in school. In England, parents are routinely declared unfit because they adjudged as not capable of “laying boundaries” with their children. In the US system, not having a crib in the home (which is often the case in Indian homes as the norm is for the baby to sleep with the parents in the same bed) is reported against the parents by child protection inspectors, and in case management sessions with child protection officials, parents are told that the authorities do not approve of “co-sleeping”. A few years ago in India, foreign child protection NGOs tried to persuade the Indian Women and Child Ministry to issue a notice to all schools in India to tell parents not to have their children sleep in the same bed with them."

  

  

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Oppdatert oversikt over demonstrasjoner annonsert for februar


22. – 6 februar 2016 kl 10:00, ved 3401 W. Dallas

23. San Francisco, California, USA – 13 februar 2016, ved 575 Market Street, utenfor det norske konsulat

24. – 7 februar 2016 kl 12:15

25. – 6 februar 2016 kl 11:00

26. – 6 februar 2016 kl 11:00

27.  – 7 februar 2016

28.  – 20 februar 2016 kl 12:00 - 14:00, Jungfernstieg - ved Flaggenplatz

  

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Fin video fra en rekke demonstrasjoner:


Stopp Barnevernet og Norges Menneskerettsbrudd, 2 februar 2016


Norge bryter en av de mest grunnleggende menneskerettigheter.

"Jeg har fått innsyn i en verden jeg ikke trodde kunne eksistere i en moderne rettsstat.".
-Einar Salvesen - Psykolog

"La hele verden få vite hva som foregår i Norge"
-Europaparlamentet

"Norsk barnevern tar mange barn fra sine foreldre uten å ha dokumentert omsorgssvikt."
-Åge Simonsen - En av Norges fremste eksperter på barnevern


  

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Demonstrasjoner den 6 februar 2016:


Australia er mer eller mindre 9 timer (tror jeg) foran oss i Europa, so resultater derfra er de første til å komme inn.

Brisbane:    250 demonstranter i Brisbane, Australia



Houston:    Jeg anslår (fra videoen) mellom 100 og 200 demonstranter i Houston. Texas, USA




Brasov:    Omtrent 2000 demonstranter i Brasov, Romania


Zalau:    800 demonstranter i Zalau, Romania

  (Det er ikke hundre prosent sikkert at denne skriver seg fra Zalau)

  

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Demonstrasjoner den 7 februar 2016:


Targu Mures:    1500 demonstranter i Targu Mures, Romania


Vancouver:    750 demonstranter i Vancouver, Canada

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Flere demonstrasjoner annonsert


29. Brüssel, Belgia – 12 februar 2016, kl 14:00, ved Den Norske Ambassade, Place du Luxembourg

30. Bacau, Romania – 13 februar 2016, kl 11:00, Oras Bacau, Casa de Cultura Bacau

31. Ploiesti, Romania – 13 februar 2016, kl 11:00, Palatul Administrativ (Casa Alba)

32. Toronto, Canada – 13 februar 2016, ved Det Norske Generalkonsulatet, Royal 2 Bloor Street

33. Aten, Hellas – 13 februar 2016, kl 14:30, ved Den Norske Ambassade i Aten

34. Bran, Romania – 14 februar 2016, kl 12:00, Parcul Central Bran

35. Targoviste, Romania – 20 februar 2016, kl 12:00, ved Platoul Prefecturii

36. Galati, Romania – 20 februar 2016, kl 12:00, Casa de Cultura

  

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