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FORUMET REDD VÅRE BARN • View topic - Menneskers evne til selvbedrag
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Vil en kristen kunne livnære seg som hallik/bordellmamma?
Nei, ikke en sann kristen 60%  60%  [ 3 ]
Ja, dersom kristen betyr at man bare er medlem av statskirken 40%  40%  [ 2 ]
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Bordellmamma Bente Lyon (48) hevder å ha vært personlig troende i alle de årende hun har drevet som hallik og prostituert.

- Jeg føler meg trygg på å bli mottatt med åpne armer. Gud må ha fått med seg alt det gode jeg har gjort for mennesker også. Jeg skal ikke drive bordell i himmelen. Jeg ser mer for meg en assistentjobb, sier Bente Lyon til Dagbladet.

I januar i fjor ble hun dømt til tre og et halvt års fengsel for å ha drevet seks bordeller. Hallikdommen var slutten på karriere i sexbransjen, men Bente Lyon mener hun skapte anstendige arbeidsforhold for prostituerte, og hjalp mange til et bedre liv.

http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2006/03/05/459740.html

Bente Lyon er ingen Maria Magdalena og pastor Svartdal ingen Jesus. Det er helt tydelig. I historien om kvinnen som holdt på å bli stenet, sa Jesus, la den som er uten synd, kaste den første sten. Deretter sa han til Maria Magdalena: Reis deg opp, og synd ikke mer. Bente Lyon på sin side later til å tro at en levende tro tillater at man fortsetter et liv i synd og at dette blir oppveid av at man skaper "gode arbeidsvilkår" for kvinner som lever av å selge sin egen kropp. Mange med et slikt gudssyn tror at det å leve i synd er forenlig med troen på en "tolerant" og kjærlig Gud som tilgir alt uansett. Men tilgivelse forutsetter anger. Bente Lyon angrer ikke på alt det gale hun har gjort. Tvertimot unnskylder hun sine motbydelige handlinger ved å påstå at hun skapte gode arbeidsvilkår for de prostituerte.

Menneskets evne til selvbedrag er stor. Bente Lyon kommer ikke til himmelen om hun ikke ærlig angrer sine synder og ber om tilgivelse. Det forutsetter at hun skjønner at det hun har gjort er galt. Det nytter ikke å si at "men jeg gjorde jo noe bra da". Bente Lyon synes tydeligvis ikke det er konfliktfylt å være både personlig kristen og hallik/prostituert. Det viser at mange, som kaller seg personlig troende, slettes ikke er det, for en sann tro forutsetter at man også praktiserer det man påstår å tro på. Det å være kristen betyr mer enn å ha et kors dinglende i halsgropen. Da brukes troen kun som pynt for å imponere omgivelsene.

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Jeg tok ikke helt sammenligningen din med Jesus og Svartdal. Bente Lyon (= Lie on) er det vel bare en mening om især for de som har lest dommen mot henne!
Svartdals "jobb" er jo nettopp å sette søkelyset på at/om mennesker forandrer seg når de blir tatt slik som henne. Så ikke programmet, men har hørt henne fortelle i en annen sammenheng. På meg synes hun å være en lettvekter unntatt i kilo. Så hvorfor bry seg med slike?
Ellers er det noe med livsløgnen, da vet du. La bare damen være i sin tro.
På lille Tofte vil hun for all tid være en merket kvinne. Personlig tror jeg atr hun gjorde et svært dumt trekk med å la seg intervjue.


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